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Grateful Dead Live at Palace Theater on 1972-09-23


Topics Live concert


Big River, Sugaree, Mexicali Blues, Friend of the Devil, Black Throated Wind, China Cat Sunflower> I Know You Rider, Me and My Uncle, Tennessee Jed, Jack Straw, Bird Song, El Paso, Deal, Playin' in the Band Promised Land> Bertha> Greatest Story Ever Told, Brown Eyed Women, Around and Around, It's All Over Now, Baby Blue, Cryptical Envelopment> Drums> The Other One> Wharf Rat, Beat it on Down the Line, Ramble on Rose, Sugar Magnolia, Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad> Not Fade Away> One More Saturday Night


Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Date September 23, 1972
Venue Palace Theater
Location Waterbury, CT

Source Soundboard
Lineage SBD> MR> Cass> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN
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Notes

SBD> MR> Cass> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN; via Jeff M.; see listening notes in revised info file

Reviews

Reviewer: chris phillips - - June 2, 2014
Subject: packed house
Palace shows (along with the Stanley run)exhibit the Dead at their finest post 11/70.
Friend, Bertha, Brown Eyed + Playin' elucidate this.
Big River is a nice opener (good Weir licks here).
Reviewer: c-freedom - - January 28, 2014
Subject: Ain't a place a man can hide
Real good with a lot of the newer format of 73-74 before it became formatted.
I like Donna with the band but I didn't really notice her in the mix until later in the show.
This one for those who like the tight versions of the classic story songs yet the jam in 'the Other One' did me some good as well.
Reviewer: Ron2112 - - July 31, 2013
Subject: More Transitional Dead....
This wonderful show starts off a bit murky with a somewhat uneven mix. Phil is way out front, and the drums almost buried. But things eventually smooth out, and by the second set, we're treated to a great-sounding board recording.

As with the other shows from this month, the band is really telegraphing what they would be doing throughout most of 1973. "Playing in the Band" is becoming a highlight, and this one is no exception, with some really fantastic jamming throughout. The rest of the set features pretty much all the staples from this era, with the whole thing logging in at 200 minutes.

Really, you can't go wrong here. Fabulous show, from an overlooked period.
Reviewer: GermanShepherd - - January 25, 2013
Subject: Nice work on Beat It!
Great sounding concert, high energy, Wharf Rat, and a 21-beat intro to Beat It On Down the Line. Wonderful stuff.
Reviewer: sydthecat - - October 5, 2012
Subject: All kinds of awesome
A rare full on That's It For The Other One and that's only the beginning! Hadn't done it for some time hence the shakiness. Still really nice to hear.

I have had a huge chunk of this one on tape for a long time and I actually prefer my tape's sound to this although this is much cleaner.

Love!
Reviewer: Picky Deadhead - - June 26, 2012
Subject: Promised Land
Coming out of the 'orchestra pit' dialogue between Bobby and Jerry-this is my favorite version and for some reason I always come back to it. It may be one of my top 50 of any GD song or version ever! Check it out, turn it up, its fast and doesn't last long...but Bobby's scream at the end of the song will make you wanna crash through a window and get on a jet to the Golden State!!
Reviewer: SomeKindaDeadhead - - September 29, 2011
Subject: pretty damn good
Keith's tearing it up
Reviewer: Evan S. Hunt - - September 24, 2011
Subject: Re: Did the Dead Dose?
This is in response to reviewer SteveOK: After the early days of 65-66 the band rarely performed while zonked on LSD. The reason: They just could not play well enough to get paid during the days when they went outside of their home area.

If they did any stimulates while performing live on stage it was usually a little pot smoked by Jerry, and a few Heinekens for Phil. A few times it was suspected that they did some blow between sets because they needed a pick me up.

You never saw evidence of Bobby, the drummers, or any of the various keyboardists ever consuming any substances other than a cigarette and a can of coke.

People think that Pigpen boozed it up before during and after a show. This is a falsehood. Blue Ron drank whenever he was not expected to perform whether on stage or in the studio and he was decidedly opposed to LSD consumption or any sort of related un-professionalism such as being high on stage or in the studio.

By 1972, Bobby was essentially drug free although he did manage to develop a propensity for good American whisky while off stage.

Keith got into his drugging while away from the rest of the band. Donna did so also, but was not near as much a loadee as her bandmates -- when they were not performing.

T.C., ever level-headed and erudite, was always pretty much a pothead. Brent slipped into oblivion during his tenure but it was rarely LSD and it was rarely evident on stage. Same can be said for Bruce or Vince.

In reality, this band was very conservative, both in their playing on stage or in the studio, because they realized at an early juncture that they could not cope with the demands of being professional musicians and songwriters while being blasted on drugs or alcohol.

It is a myth to assume these people were always rollicked to the gills on some sort of psychedelic cocktail of kosher or non-kosher substances. Though they all had their moments of super indulgence, they were too serious about what they were doing to be stoned alla time.

The tragedy regarding the band's heroin use in the 80's was limited to off stage. They did use a lot of blow during the 70's and 80's but it was rarely ever used before or during a performance. -- They just couldn't function while being stoned and preferred to be completely clean and sober when they hit the stage or crowded into the studio.

There is documented a few isolated times when one or the other band member was dosed, but this was a rare occasion.

Other than all that, this is a good show.
Reviewer: cb18201 - - November 27, 2010
Subject: the beautiful palace theater
the link below has a good picture of the inside of the theater along with a few other places the Dead played. The theater is pretty old but is beautiful inside. The acoustics are pretty amazing too. Theres Pink FLoyd bootleg from the Dark Side OF The Moon Tour circulating called "Dark Side Of Radio City" which is listed as being performed at Radio City Music Hall but is actually a performance at the Palace Theater. Its an audience recording but is in my opinion the best show ive ever heard by them.

http://www.zappa.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8966

as for the music here.......both nights (23rd & 24th) are excellent. the band is ON and they dust off a few tracks that hadnt been played in a while and after this show wouldnt be played again for a while....(Its all over now, Baby blue, Cryptical Envelopment). definitely add these shows to your collection. would be nice to see them remastered & released as a box set one day.
Reviewer: clementinescaboose - - May 13, 2010
Subject: cryptical
whoa its always cool finding little trivia tidbits like this...too bad they butchered it though. but at least its followed by a massive TOO
Reviewer: Sedula - - September 24, 2009
Subject: Last Cryptical Until '85
One wonders if this was the last Cryptical because they were tired of playing it or because there were numerous mistakes one this one...and perhaps it signaled the end of playing this song as well as they would have liked.
Reviewer: NYLifer - - September 23, 2009
Subject: Dave Brubeck Time Out riff
Sounds like Phil and Keith and Billy pay a little tribute to Brubeck starting about 7:45 into The Other One! Great sound.
Peace, Bob
Reviewer: SteveOK - - August 28, 2009
Subject: dosed goofy grateful dead
sick 72 show.

funny stage banter before promised land. what the eff are they talking about?? were they dosed?

and if they were dosed, did phil have one dose too many? at 4:15 in bertha there is a few second slow down where it sounds like phil wants to go into good lovin.

also nice 'you guys are gonna love this' remark by bobby before sugar magnolia starts. we do love it bobby.
Reviewer: ah_uh_oh_um - - August 26, 2009
Subject: The GRATEFUL DEAD "Live On Stage" at the Palace Theater, Waterbury Conectticut, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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Super 72' Soundboard.

Here's a nice East Coast show for your listening enjoyment.

This show has the energy of a NYC show, probably because it was filled with New Yorkers...

I highly recommend adding this show to your 1972 GRATEFUL DEAD collection, it's 100% devoid of MH.

Donna and Bobby's vocal mix is very nice.

Keith sounds really good.

Garcia's sound is still intact.

You get the songs, the jams, the sound, the excitement like it should be, like it was.

Here's one way to stream/download this show:

The IA recommends users of Windows XP view this web-page with RealPlayer.

RealPlayer is a free media player you can download at www.realplayer.com.

Using RealPlayer to view this webpage, click the VBR M3U link to open the songs in the Playlist.

If your Playlist is not open, open it by clicking the Playlist icon at the lower right hand corner of RealPlayer.

Once the songs are in the Playlist, double click the song to play it, then click the record button at the lower left hand corner of Realplayer to record it.

When the red line reaches the other end click the stop button to download the song. Your song is in the RealPlayer Downloads folder.

Repeat these steps for each song.

OR

Hook up audio cables (1/8th inch stereo male jack with two rca male jacks at the other end) from your headphone jack on your computer to your audio input on your Reel to Reel, Cassette,VHS, CD, DVD, MP3, recorder and record it in real time...duh?

Eat, Drink, Be Merry and Listen to the GRATEFUL DEAD, or FOAD.

PS: Remember to click on the "DeadList Project" link and get the ticket stub for this show it makes a silly CD cover...

Share the Music, it might make you a better person. Those types of gains can't be lost on Wall Street.
Reviewer: Homer JAY Simpson - - November 4, 2007
Subject: Almost All New To Me...
being a [predominately] 80s-only Brent purist, i've inadvertantly done myself a great service -- what a lot of fleeting shows i have spurned!!

thanks archive.org, this is like having never opened a treasure chest. i'm going to spend the rest of my life enjoying shows just like this one. amen.
Reviewer: GratefulDavo - - September 23, 2007
Subject: good for 1972
This was a good show 1972 great set. Hearing the studio arrangement of "Friend of the devil" was nice used to hearing live arrangement. love them both. I'm not sure when the live arrangement started. Keith was cool, Donna usual. Cryptical>Drums-Bill is great playin solo.>other one>wharf rat awesome. The rest of show great, no major problems. Sound was good. Jerry, Bob, Phil solid
Reviewer: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 - - September 23, 2007
Subject: hidden gem for real!!!!!!
just from the opening song,big river jerry is on fire!!!!!!! both these 72 shows rock 9-23,24,72 these are prob two of my fav 72 shows check em out!!!!!
Reviewer: TheFrozenLauger - - April 2, 2007
Subject: Great Keith
Awesome other one With Some Pretty Great Sounding Very Early Keith... Showing Why he was the best
Reviewer: Lemmy - - December 12, 2006
Subject: What a Gem..
Loving this show. Fall 1972 WOW!!!
Reviewer: DTSECOFR21 - - July 23, 2006
Subject: Hidden gem
This is a great hidden gem...sound quality=5; show quality=5... as I wrote on the 9/24/72 review, I had attended some shows (not the Dead, but Bobby's band) and this place was a real fire trap. It would have been incredible to see the Dead there. It was recently renovated and the pics of it look pretty nice. Overall, great show; worth the download.
Reviewer: markgugs - - April 24, 2005
Subject: Another superb Sept. 1972 show
Sound quality is great, another warm SBD. And the band is on fire, as they were for almost all of fall '72

Highlights include a roaring China > Rider, a frenetic spaced-out Playin', a rocking Promised > Bertha > Greatest Story 2nd set intro, and a MASSIVE Cryptical > Drums > Other 1 > Wharf Rat before closing things out with can't-possibly-dance-this-hard Sugar Mags, GDTRFB > NFA > One More Saturday.

Like everything else from 9/72, just get this.

Sound: A-
Show: A-
Reviewer: gratefully deadicated - - March 14, 2005
Subject: lost my G.D. virginity on this one
well lets see. I tried to write the 1st review for this one but,oh well. Anway this was my 1st show,out of 103. I remember walking back to my brothers apt repeating over and over,i'v got to see these guy's again. The rest , as they say, is history. I had been looking for this show for years and since i'm new to the net,i found etree.org and downloaded this show on super bowl eve and heard it again for forst time since 9-23-72 that nite. the memories were greatGreat site. Good job.
Reviewer: gratefully deadicated - - March 14, 2005
Subject: lost my G.D. virginity on this one
well lets see. I tried to write the 1st review for this one but,oh well. Anway this was my 1st show,out of 103. I remember walking back to my brothers apt repeating over and over,i'v got to see these guy's again. The rest , as they say, is history. I had been looking for this show for years and since i'm new to the net,i found etree.org and downloaded this show on super bowl eve and heard it again for forst time since 9-23-72 that nite. the memories were greatGreat site. Good job.
Reviewer: Polka - - February 19, 2005
Subject: Solid Stuff
Looks like this one needs a boost. Not much by way of reviews or downloads!

Previous reviews were right on. The Other One > Wharf Rat (without the final TOO verse) is excellent Dead.

Though the first set lags, and the Playin is unimpressive, I do really like this FOTD.

Show: B+
Sound: B
Reviewer: Nuggets - - February 14, 2005
Subject: Good Show!
This show is good but the sound quality is just.. alright. 9/23 and 9/24 are two of the better 72's Ive heard. Some tape hiss is present and the mix is not that good. If your a fan of 72 pick this one up. Peace
Reviewer: capn doubledose - - February 10, 2005
Subject: Very significant show
Phil & Friends played this in 2003 I think... One of the first big river's I am aware of, very hot sugaree, Tenn Jed is excellent, China>Rider... Very trippy playin (love those '72's). The Other One I like even better than Stanley Theatre and I think that one is a killer - this one is a hard hitting psychedelic tour de force and Jerry makes full use of the flanger and Wa Wa, this never lets up and cracks you right betweeen the eyes over and over. If you go to the palace Theatre website there are all of these Greek Frescoes on the roof from the 1920's I can imagine being all jacked up during this other one and tearing my hear out while Jerry takes full control our collective psyche. You can taste and smell this Other One.

The only reason this is not a 5 is because it is stuck in a year where 5's were banged out like chicklets.

This night also represents a few milestones:
First Baby Blue since 11/08/70 (and rarely played prior)

One of the first Big Rivers

THE LAST CRYPTICAL UNTIL 6/16/85 (being a huge fan of this when I saw this at Merriwether on 6/30/85 I almost did a back handspring)

Why no one had reviewed this is mind boggling to me....
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